There are many instances where you can avoid combat and talk it out inBaldur’s Gate 3, but the Thorm bosses you find in the Shadow-Cursed Lands can all be defeated with the right dialogue choices. Here’s how to avoid combat and defeat the Thorms with dialogue choices inBG3.
Best way to defeat all Thorm bosses inBaldur’s Gate 3| Malus, Gerringothe, Thisobald
Yes, you can defeat every Thorm boss inBaldur’s Gate 3with the right dialogue options, but you won’t pass the extremely high skill checks without good Charisma and proficiencies. Have the party member withthe most Charisma, like a Bard or a Warlock, talk to the Thorm bosses to have the best chances at defeating them all through conversations.
Note:To get to the Thorm bosses, you would benefit greatly from havingall three Moonlanternson you at all times to thwart the Shadow Curse.
How to defeat Thisobald in conversation
Thisobald Thorm isfound in The Waning Moon taverndirectly west of the Moonrise Towers fast travel point.
To beat Thisobald in conversation, you need topass several Saving Throws and Performance checksto out-drink Thisobald. I believe there are three Saving Throw checks which you should pass by selecting your class proficiency advantage if there is one and three Performance checks when you tell stories of your adventures.
For a full breakdown ofbeating Thisobald Thorm in combat and conversation, check out our guide.
How to defeat Gerringothe in conversation
Gerringothe is the Thorm covered in gold and isfound at the Tollhouse northeast of Moonrise Towers. Go to the center of Tollhouse and walk up the stairs to find Gerringothe. Here’s how to defeat Gerringothe Thorm with dialogue choices.
After giving Gerringothe one gold, I chose the dialogue option aboutnot handing out gold for little in return. Keep asking questions instead of attacking or giving her gold and you’ll eventually get more dialogue options. I gota Monk-specific dialogue optionthat allowed me to caution Gerringothe about the ensnaring nature of gold. My check wasa DC 18, and I think most checks will be around that.
After you get Gerringothe to start questioning herself, you canmake a Persuasion, Deception, or Intimidation skill check. Go with whatever you’re most proficient in because these checks will be hard to pass. Whatever you choose,the DC is 21, so you need a critical success to pass or proficiencies and advantages to help out.
After successfully passing your skill check,Gerringothe and all her minions will explode. Be sure to grab the Twist of Fortune Morningstar.
I’ve also seen people on Reddit say that if yougive her all your gold, you can start combat andshove her off a ledge to deal around 600 damagewhich immediately kills Gerringothe. Like always, there are multiple ways of solving this puzzle.
How to defeat Malus in conversation
Malus Thorm isfound in the House of Healing northwest of Moonrise Towers. There are many options to defeat Malus through dialogue options which makes taking him down all the more fun.
To defeat Malus in conversation, I chose the dialogue options thatplay along with Malus’ twisted experiment. You can thenroll an Investigation, Religion, or Persuasion skill checkto continue. TheDC is 16, so pick whatever you’re proficient in.
I chose Persuasion and hadthe nurses turn on their master. I didn’t have them turn on each other because if you do that, you need to pass another skill check to have Malus kill himself.
And that is how youdefeat the three Thorm bosses in conversations. Of course, if you fail, you’ll need to engage in combat and beat each Thorm boss in different ways. I doubt Ketheric Thorm can be defeated with a simple conversation like the other Thorm bosses can, but we’ll have to see. I haven’t gotten that far and I haven’t found research on that yet.
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